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	<title>Comments on: Five Recommended books for Understanding the Old Testament</title>
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		<title>By: Dr. B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few more books of interest not mentioned include:

Ben-Tor, Ammon, ed. The Archaeology of Ancient Israel. New Haven: Yale University Press, 1992.

Dorsey, David A. The Literary Structure of the Old Testament: A Commentary on Genesis-Malachi. Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Books, 1999.

Heschel, Abraham Joshua. The Prophets: An Introduction. 2 vols. New York: Harper and Row, 1969 71.

Bray, Gerald. Biblical Interpretation: Past and Present. Downers Grove, Ill.: InterVarsity Press, 2000.

As far as an overall LDS Old Testament commentary or history goes I might agree.  However for single books in OT I think Abraham Gileadi&#039;s Isaiah Decoded: Ascending the Ladder to Heaven is a particularly insightful treatment.  I believe our buddy Dave Seeley gave it a nice plug in FARMS a while back.  Although I don&#039;t jump on the Gileadi bandwagon he does good work.  The two Parry boys handled Isaiah well although I wouldn&#039;t put it up there with others.  Martin Buber also did a nice job covering the prophets unfortunately it was written in German.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more books of interest not mentioned include:</p>
<p>Ben-Tor, Ammon, ed. The Archaeology of Ancient Israel. New Haven: Yale University Press, 1992.</p>
<p>Dorsey, David A. The Literary Structure of the Old Testament: A Commentary on Genesis-Malachi. Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Books, 1999.</p>
<p>Heschel, Abraham Joshua. The Prophets: An Introduction. 2 vols. New York: Harper and Row, 1969 71.</p>
<p>Bray, Gerald. Biblical Interpretation: Past and Present. Downers Grove, Ill.: InterVarsity Press, 2000.</p>
<p>As far as an overall LDS Old Testament commentary or history goes I might agree.  However for single books in OT I think Abraham Gileadi&#8217;s Isaiah Decoded: Ascending the Ladder to Heaven is a particularly insightful treatment.  I believe our buddy Dave Seeley gave it a nice plug in FARMS a while back.  Although I don&#8217;t jump on the Gileadi bandwagon he does good work.  The two Parry boys handled Isaiah well although I wouldn&#8217;t put it up there with others.  Martin Buber also did a nice job covering the prophets unfortunately it was written in German.</p>
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		<title>By: David J</title>
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		<dc:creator>David J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitsav, I&#039;m in total agreement with each one. I especially liked the Oxford History of the Biblical World and de Veaux&#039;s book (albeit somewhat outdated in spots).

Using a DSS commentary for OT study (#1)? Did you say that just to sound cool or do you really think it helps? I have found that there&#039;s hardly any variation between the BHS and the DSSs, outside of the &quot;secular&quot; texts, and your BHS apparatus makes notes of DSS variations anyway.

And Nitsav, I liked your first comment: the most helpful OT study tool - PUT DOWN YOUR KJV AND PICK UP A TRANSLATION THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SOME SENSE. I use the NRSV and NASB for English translations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitsav, I&#8217;m in total agreement with each one. I especially liked the Oxford History of the Biblical World and de Veaux&#8217;s book (albeit somewhat outdated in spots).</p>
<p>Using a DSS commentary for OT study (#1)? Did you say that just to sound cool or do you really think it helps? I have found that there&#8217;s hardly any variation between the BHS and the DSSs, outside of the &#8220;secular&#8221; texts, and your BHS apparatus makes notes of DSS variations anyway.</p>
<p>And Nitsav, I liked your first comment: the most helpful OT study tool &#8211; PUT DOWN YOUR KJV AND PICK UP A TRANSLATION THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SOME SENSE. I use the NRSV and NASB for English translations.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitsav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nitsav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alter&#039;s book does require a dictionary and some slow reading, but it pays off!

(Note: this post written instead of posting a lengthy comment over &lt;a href=&quot;http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2007/10/24/top-ten-book-list-for-lds-students-of-the-scriptures/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alter&#8217;s book does require a dictionary and some slow reading, but it pays off!</p>
<p>(Note: this post written instead of posting a lengthy comment over <a href="http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2007/10/24/top-ten-book-list-for-lds-students-of-the-scriptures/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. )</p>
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		<title>By: nhilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>nhilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you to all those who&#039;ve added their thoughts here.  At FUTW I have a &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2007/10/24/top-ten-book-list-for-lds-students-of-the-scriptures/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tandem post&lt;/A&gt; going re: all books on all LDS cannonized scripture.  

In teaching GD last year with an OT focus, I found *Scripture Study, James E. Faulconer to be helpful, especially the two appendix in the back re: Greek vs. Jewish thought.  I know this is only the tip of the iceburg on this issue and found it remarkably interesting and enlightening, esp. re: temple experiences.  If anyone can point me to a book following Jim&#039;s springboard, I&#039;d appreciate it.  

I LOVE the Old Testament and I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a common sentiment in the LDS church.  Too often we cop out with the &quot;as far as it&#039;s translated correctly&quot; disclaimer and put all that we don&#039;t immediately understand in this box as being mis-translated or mis-copied.  I think a lot of our misunderstanding stems from the issues Jim brings up in his book.  I am excited to read Alter’s Art of Biblical Narrative.  This book appears to be something that will help me appreciate and understand the OT better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to all those who&#8217;ve added their thoughts here.  At FUTW I have a <a HREF="http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2007/10/24/top-ten-book-list-for-lds-students-of-the-scriptures/" rel="nofollow">tandem post</a> going re: all books on all LDS cannonized scripture.  </p>
<p>In teaching GD last year with an OT focus, I found *Scripture Study, James E. Faulconer to be helpful, especially the two appendix in the back re: Greek vs. Jewish thought.  I know this is only the tip of the iceburg on this issue and found it remarkably interesting and enlightening, esp. re: temple experiences.  If anyone can point me to a book following Jim&#8217;s springboard, I&#8217;d appreciate it.  </p>
<p>I LOVE the Old Testament and I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a common sentiment in the LDS church.  Too often we cop out with the &#8220;as far as it&#8217;s translated correctly&#8221; disclaimer and put all that we don&#8217;t immediately understand in this box as being mis-translated or mis-copied.  I think a lot of our misunderstanding stems from the issues Jim brings up in his book.  I am excited to read Alter’s Art of Biblical Narrative.  This book appears to be something that will help me appreciate and understand the OT better.</p>
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		<title>By: David Grua</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Grua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought my Dad Alter&#039;s &lt;em&gt; Art of Biblical Poetry &lt;/em&gt; a couple of years back. My Dad&#039;s an English teacher, so knows a thing or two about poetry, but he found it to be a fascinating yet complex work that could not be skimmed through by a beginner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought my Dad Alter&#8217;s <em> Art of Biblical Poetry </em> a couple of years back. My Dad&#8217;s an English teacher, so knows a thing or two about poetry, but he found it to be a fascinating yet complex work that could not be skimmed through by a beginner.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitsav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nitsav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian: I would not recommend Skousen&#039;s books.

David: I haven&#039;t read that particular book of Smith, but I like the others. A bit dry, sometimes, but  I know they have been well-received. 

Gilgamesh- I second the ABD, although it might be too much information or too scholarly for someone just jumping in. It&#039;s expensive too. Perhaps something like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-Companion-Bible-Bruce-Metzger/dp/0195046455/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0179271-3943822?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1193334913&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oxford Companion to the Bible&lt;/a&gt;. We used Kuhrt in a history class, good stuff. More, perhaps, for a second stage of reading than an intro.

Ronan: I know Friedman took some criticism, and revised some ideas (which he discusses in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/s/103-0179271-3943822?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=mozilla-20&amp;index=blended&amp;link%5Fcode=qs&amp;field-keywords=bible%20sources%20revealed&amp;sourceid=Mozilla-search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Bible with Sources Revealed&lt;/a&gt;), but still find it very useful. There&#039;s nothing else that explains narratively how OT source criticism  came about. 

That said, parts of it really bug me, when he seems to be working backwards. I feel that he commits some of the same errors he warns others against.

BRad: I think Alter&#039;s A&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Art-Biblical-Narrative-Robert-Alter/dp/046500427X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0179271-3943822?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1193336380&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rt of Biblical Narrative&lt;/a&gt; was on my original list of 5 (which I made in Sacrament mtg. a few weeks back.) It&#039;s extremely useful for understanding why the stories are told as they are, what details are included, etc. I cn&#039;t comment on his other work, since I haven&#039;t read it, but it&#039;s probably worth reading.  I&#039;m not familiar with Jack Miles at all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian: I would not recommend Skousen&#8217;s books.</p>
<p>David: I haven&#8217;t read that particular book of Smith, but I like the others. A bit dry, sometimes, but  I know they have been well-received. </p>
<p>Gilgamesh- I second the ABD, although it might be too much information or too scholarly for someone just jumping in. It&#8217;s expensive too. Perhaps something like the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-Companion-Bible-Bruce-Metzger/dp/0195046455/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0179271-3943822?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1193334913&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Oxford Companion to the Bible</a>. We used Kuhrt in a history class, good stuff. More, perhaps, for a second stage of reading than an intro.</p>
<p>Ronan: I know Friedman took some criticism, and revised some ideas (which he discusses in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/103-0179271-3943822?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=mozilla-20&amp;index=blended&amp;link%5Fcode=qs&amp;field-keywords=bible%20sources%20revealed&amp;sourceid=Mozilla-search" rel="nofollow">The Bible with Sources Revealed</a>), but still find it very useful. There&#8217;s nothing else that explains narratively how OT source criticism  came about. </p>
<p>That said, parts of it really bug me, when he seems to be working backwards. I feel that he commits some of the same errors he warns others against.</p>
<p>BRad: I think Alter&#8217;s A<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Art-Biblical-Narrative-Robert-Alter/dp/046500427X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0179271-3943822?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1193336380&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">rt of Biblical Narrative</a> was on my original list of 5 (which I made in Sacrament mtg. a few weeks back.) It&#8217;s extremely useful for understanding why the stories are told as they are, what details are included, etc. I cn&#8217;t comment on his other work, since I haven&#8217;t read it, but it&#8217;s probably worth reading.  I&#8217;m not familiar with Jack Miles at all</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitsav,
What think you of Friedman&#039;s Who Wrote the Bible?</description>
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What think you of Friedman&#8217;s Who Wrote the Bible?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One could check out Dave Seely&#039;s bibliographies of LDS work on the OT, the first one in 1998 and the supplement in 45/1 (2006), both in BYU Studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One could check out Dave Seely&#8217;s bibliographies of LDS work on the OT, the first one in 1998 and the supplement in 45/1 (2006), both in BYU Studies.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the recommendations! It is time I updated my library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recommendations! It is time I updated my library.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Kramer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 03:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think about Robert Alter&#039;s work?  I&#039;m thinking of his translation and commentaries on the five books of Moses and the David story.  Also, his and Frank Kermode&#039;s edited volume.  Lastly, what about Jack Miles&#039; God: A Biography.  
As for history, I&#039;m a fan of Amelie Kuhrt&#039;s The Ancient Near East, in two volumes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think about Robert Alter&#8217;s work?  I&#8217;m thinking of his translation and commentaries on the five books of Moses and the David story.  Also, his and Frank Kermode&#8217;s edited volume.  Lastly, what about Jack Miles&#8217; God: A Biography.<br />
As for history, I&#8217;m a fan of Amelie Kuhrt&#8217;s The Ancient Near East, in two volumes.</p>
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