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	<title>Comments on: Children and SSM: An Analysis of &#8220;The Divine Institution of Marriage&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those interested, Blake and I continue this discussion here:

http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2008/10/prop-8-comment-they-would-not-print/569/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those interested, Blake and I continue this discussion here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2008/10/prop-8-comment-they-would-not-print/569/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2008/10/prop-8-comment-they-would-not-print/569/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmiles keep in mind this guy in the video was arrested not because he was against SSM but because he was unruly and out of line.  No cop would arrest him if was cooperative and just trying to make a point.  The book doesn&#039;t show anything that schools with diversity programs haven&#039;t shown for years way before the marriages started.  The goal of the schools is to provide a safe atmosphere to teach math and reading.  There are a few exeptions but teachers are usually not gay rights activists and if they do you really think this bill will change that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmiles keep in mind this guy in the video was arrested not because he was against SSM but because he was unruly and out of line.  No cop would arrest him if was cooperative and just trying to make a point.  The book doesn&#8217;t show anything that schools with diversity programs haven&#8217;t shown for years way before the marriages started.  The goal of the schools is to provide a safe atmosphere to teach math and reading.  There are a few exeptions but teachers are usually not gay rights activists and if they do you really think this bill will change that?</p>
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		<title>By: SinisterMatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>SinisterMatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate (12):

&quot;including the highly dubious claim that the Church will somehow be forced to recognize and perform same sex marriage. As TT notes, this has been thoroughly disproved.&quot;

The argument of the Church being forced to perform same-sex marriage makes me think that whoever originally posited it used &quot;could&quot; instead of &quot;will,&quot; so that it originally read:

The Church (or churches, I&#039;ve seen it elsewhere, too) could be forced to perform same-sex marriage. 

Since &quot;will&quot; is far more rhetorically powerful than &quot;could,&quot; I wonder if somewhere it got transmogrified.  I don&#039;t know for sure, though, but those are my musings.

Since the whole thing is couched in the 14th Amendment, I could see how it could be used that way, especially with the right lawyer and judge, though it would probably be pretty tenuous at best.


Just a thought.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate (12):</p>
<p>&#8220;including the highly dubious claim that the Church will somehow be forced to recognize and perform same sex marriage. As TT notes, this has been thoroughly disproved.&#8221;</p>
<p>The argument of the Church being forced to perform same-sex marriage makes me think that whoever originally posited it used &#8220;could&#8221; instead of &#8220;will,&#8221; so that it originally read:</p>
<p>The Church (or churches, I&#8217;ve seen it elsewhere, too) could be forced to perform same-sex marriage. </p>
<p>Since &#8220;will&#8221; is far more rhetorically powerful than &#8220;could,&#8221; I wonder if somewhere it got transmogrified.  I don&#8217;t know for sure, though, but those are my musings.</p>
<p>Since the whole thing is couched in the 14th Amendment, I could see how it could be used that way, especially with the right lawyer and judge, though it would probably be pretty tenuous at best.</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: mmiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TT-
   I don&#039;t think they mean the material isn&#039;t age appropriate, but that from kindergarten on childen will be introduced to the idea of SSM as normal. See this video:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1815820715/bctid1822459319

Also, the church views homosexual activity as inherently harmful. So yah, it&#039;s not helpful to teach teenagers the nuts and bolts in great detail about gay sex along side with how sex happens between heterosexuals and reproduction. 
I agree, that hurts kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TT-<br />
   I don&#8217;t think they mean the material isn&#8217;t age appropriate, but that from kindergarten on childen will be introduced to the idea of SSM as normal. See this video:<br />
<a href="http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1815820715/bctid1822459319" rel="nofollow">http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1815820715/bctid1822459319</a></p>
<p>Also, the church views homosexual activity as inherently harmful. So yah, it&#8217;s not helpful to teach teenagers the nuts and bolts in great detail about gay sex along side with how sex happens between heterosexuals and reproduction.<br />
I agree, that hurts kids.</p>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick follow up to this.  On the recently launched website www.preservingmarrige.com, it states:


&lt;i&gt;Failure to pass Proposition 8 will hurt children.
If gay marriage remains legal, public schools will put it on equal footing with traditional marriage. Children will likely receive “age appropriate” information about sexual relations within heterosexual and homosexual marriages.&lt;/i&gt;

Is the last sentence with the quotes around &quot;age appropriate&quot; meant to suggest that it isn&#039;t really?  I am also confused about this claim.  Children will be hurt because they will be taught in school about how homosexual people have sex when they are married?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick follow up to this.  On the recently launched website <a href="http://www.preservingmarrige.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.preservingmarrige.com</a>, it states:</p>
<p><i>Failure to pass Proposition 8 will hurt children.<br />
If gay marriage remains legal, public schools will put it on equal footing with traditional marriage. Children will likely receive “age appropriate” information about sexual relations within heterosexual and homosexual marriages.</i></p>
<p>Is the last sentence with the quotes around &#8220;age appropriate&#8221; meant to suggest that it isn&#8217;t really?  I am also confused about this claim.  Children will be hurt because they will be taught in school about how homosexual people have sex when they are married?</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#comment-16277&quot;&gt;It lacks the elements that historically defined what a marriage is, beginning with the most fundamental level of &lt;strong&gt;the X and Y chromosomes that define gender.&lt;/strong&gt; [Emphasis mine.]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nature itself refutes this simplistic definition of sex. I invite you to take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome&quot; title=&quot;Wikipedia article on AIS.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;androgen insensitivity syndrome&lt;/a&gt; and ask yourself, are such individuals male or female? To help you reach a decision, take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indiana.edu/~ais/html/home.html&quot; title=&quot;Valuable resource on AIS. Be sure to check out the &#039;Stories&#039; section!&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some stories and pictures&lt;/a&gt; of individuals with this condition; remember that they look this way naturally, not because of surgical intervention.

Note that my use of the word &quot;individuals&quot; is purely to avoid colouring your judgement; I am of the firm belief that these are definitely, undeniably women, and that society should tolerate no deviation from this in any material sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="#comment-16277"><p>It lacks the elements that historically defined what a marriage is, beginning with the most fundamental level of <strong>the X and Y chromosomes that define gender.</strong> [Emphasis mine.]</p></blockquote>
<p>Nature itself refutes this simplistic definition of sex. I invite you to take a look at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome" title="Wikipedia article on AIS." rel="nofollow">androgen insensitivity syndrome</a> and ask yourself, are such individuals male or female? To help you reach a decision, take a look at <a href="http://www.indiana.edu/~ais/html/home.html" title="Valuable resource on AIS. Be sure to check out the 'Stories' section!" rel="nofollow">some stories and pictures</a> of individuals with this condition; remember that they look this way naturally, not because of surgical intervention.</p>
<p>Note that my use of the word &#8220;individuals&#8221; is purely to avoid colouring your judgement; I am of the firm belief that these are definitely, undeniably women, and that society should tolerate no deviation from this in any material sense.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little known fact: &quot;It takes a fertile sperm, egg and a uterus&quot; was the original title of Hillary Clinton&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Takes-Village-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton/dp/0684825457&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1996 book&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little known fact: &#8220;It takes a fertile sperm, egg and a uterus&#8221; was the original title of Hillary Clinton&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Takes-Village-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton/dp/0684825457" rel="nofollow">1996 book</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hint: Dexter is nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hint: Dexter is nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mogget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mogget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am single and yet there are instances in which I am referred to as a family by church leaders.

Mogs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am single and yet there are instances in which I am referred to as a family by church leaders.</p>
<p>Mogs</p>
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		<title>By: Mark IV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It takes a fertile sperm, egg and a uterus to successfully create human life.  Take any of those three away and there is no basis for a family.&lt;/i&gt;

That would certainly come as news to the members of my extended family who are unable to have children, and to my father-in-law, who is in his 70s and who recently married a woman who is also in her 70s.  It would also come as news to the church, which solemnized all those marriages in the temple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It takes a fertile sperm, egg and a uterus to successfully create human life.  Take any of those three away and there is no basis for a family.</i></p>
<p>That would certainly come as news to the members of my extended family who are unable to have children, and to my father-in-law, who is in his 70s and who recently married a woman who is also in her 70s.  It would also come as news to the church, which solemnized all those marriages in the temple.</p>
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